ensuring that the senior Taxing Master could not get
into his office that they drove six inch nails into these
dummy doors—quite an unnecessary exercise, but, I
suggest, evidence of their determination to permanently
barricade these people out of their offices.
The only intimation this senior Taxing Master got
that he was to move to another office was an arrow, in
red, I understand, saying "Master de Valera" and
pointing that he was to go into Master Bell's office, the
junior Faxing Master, who found that his name was
obliterated from his door, the only intimation that he
got being that he was to go 240 yards away was a mess-
age to his clerk. It did not stop at that, because the
official papers in the senior Taxing Master's office—his
private papers and photographs he had on the wall—
were taken in bulk, without by your leave or a word to
him, and roughly thrown on the floor of the junior
Taxing Master's office. That was the condition these
quasi-judicial officers found when they reported for
duty on 22nd November.
They very properly reported to the Chief Justice
under whose direction they discharge their duties.
Cenerally, I understand that the Chief Justice is in
charge of the administration of the Four Courts, or at
least of the judicial officers in the Four Courts. Having
reported to him, the Chief Justice instructed them to
down tools, to cease to carry out their functions, until
such time as proper facilities were provided for them
and between 22nd November and 9th December, there
was something in the nature—in fact, there was a
strike. The Taxing Masters refused to discharge their
duties because they were not provided with adequate
facilities, and, indeed, it is significant to point out that
since then the junior Taxing Master has not been
requested to travel these 240 yards, or one-eighth of a
mile, to the new office. It may be made light of that a
journey of 240 yards is an excessive distance for one of
these officials to walk but it is very important when it is
borne in mind that they are bound under the rules of
the Superior Court, if not under statute, to keep in
close consultation with each other, to consult daily on
various matters and to ensure that they are acting in
principle together. Furthermore, there is a common
office, a general office, serving both and it means that if
a Master 240 yards away wanted a file, he had to send
down for it.
The position now is that the two Taxing Masters
resumed duty apparently on 9th December and both of
them are working in what was formerly the court of
the junior Taxing Master and working in shifts because
they cannot work together. I want to say that I believe
this discloses an entirely unhealthy approach by the
Minister and the Minister's Department to the adminis-
tration of justice in this country.
I will be surprised if, accepting the history of this
unfortunate episode as related by me the Minister
stands over it or justifies it, or seeks to say that it could
be tolerated. I think he would serve his office, himself
and the Government much better if he said it was an
unfortunate incident which happened without his
knowledge and which should not happen and will not
happen again.
As I said, if some ordinary citizen of this country
acted as the Minister's officers acted in this case, the
Minister would feel justified in invoking the Forcible
Entry Act to have them thrown out and brought before
the courts for a breach of the law.
Minister for Justice (Mr. O'Malley):
I want to
emphasise at the outset, as I said in the statement I
issued some couple of weeks ago in connection with this
matter, that what was involved here was a rearrange-
ment of the accommodation of two court officials to
provide an additional courtroom for a new Circuit
Court judge whose appointment was urgently needed in
the public interest. The position at present in the Dub-
lin Circuit Court is that there are arrears of between
nine and ten months in the trial of criminal offences.
There are approximately similar arrears as a result in
the trial of civil actions because criminal trials, natur-
ally enough, so far as possible have to be given prece-
dence.
This creates a social problem which has been a source
of serious concern to me as Minister for Justice. Long
delays in bringing cases to trial are unfair to accused
persons. They also contribute substantially to an increase
in crime because persons on bail, who think they are
likely to be convicted and sentenced to prison, are
liable to commit additional offences while on bail. The
Garda Siochana inform me that in the year 1970, to
their knowledge, just short of 1,300 indictable crimes
were committed by persons while on bail. While there
are a variety of reasons for the fact that persons are on
bail for long periods the major reason is that the trial of
criminal indictments in the Dublin Circuit Court is
very much in arrears and has been for some time.
Efforts were made to reduce these arrears by enlisting
the assistance of the provincial judges of the Circuit
Court, as and when they were available, but, quite
obviously, these efforts have been only marginally suc-
cessful because the judges were only available for com-
paratively short periods. It, therefore, became necessary
to appoint an additional judge in Dublin and to find
an additional courtroom in which he could function.
The only adequate accommodation available for this
purpose was accommodation that had previously been
used by a taxing master. This fact was established after
a lengthy and detailed examination of all sorts of alter-
native premises including suggestions for the building
of prefabs in or beside the Four Courts, efforts to
acquire premises in the immediate vicinity of the Four
Courts failed as did an examination of every room that
looked in any way possible for use in the Four Courts
itself.
This then was the background to the taking over of
the accommodation concerned. In fact, even in the
rather inaccurate and coloured version of the history of
the events which he gave the Deputy admits at least
two lengthy consultations by senior officers of my De-
partment. The allegation, therefore, has since been
changed to the effect that, while there were som
e
consultations, they were not enough or not adequate-
Quite clearly the Deputy is not aware of how much
consultation did in fact take place or how much dis-
cussion took place at these various meetings and how
long they lasted.
I frankly do not feel under any obligation to defend
mvself in relation to the allocation of accommodation i*
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public buildings. There was so much consultation b>
such senior officers of my Department, including the
secretary, two assistant secretaries and a senior p^U"
cipal officer, that if I were to disclose the full details oi
all tho-e consultations I could very well see Deputies i*
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this House accusing me of wasting the taxpayers' money-
It is an absurd situation that the transfer of an official
from one room to another should be allowed to take up
the time of Dail Eireann, both earlier today at Question
Time and again now on the adjournment. Deputy
Fitzpatrick, in the various statements which he mad
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this evening, laid great emphasis on officials of ^ Í
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