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DrCaudle

You previously reported similar out-

comes for resectable stage 3 non-small-cell

lung cancer tumors treated with induction

chemotherapy followed by either defini-

tive chemoradiotherapy or surgery in the

ESPATUE trial. In light of the recent advances

with immunotherapy in combination with

chemotherapy seen in the KEYNOTE-021

in the metastatic setting, what are your

thoughts about immunotherapy being uti-

lized in the neoadjuvant or definitive setting

for localized non-small-cell lung cancer?

Dr Eberhardt

With the studies in the recent

years in locally advanced non-small-cell lung

cancer stage 3, we’ve been through a time

where we most optimized the local regional

approach. The systemic approach was usu-

ally platinum-based chemotherapy, and at

the end of the day, still we find that only up

to 25% to 40% of the patients are cured, so

the patient relapse and die. The most impor-

tant issue currently is to improve the systemic

treatment in this lung cancer stage, so immu-

notherapy based on the results in stage 4,

is a very interesting new approach to use.

In recent weeks, we’ve already heard

through press release that there is a possi-

bility that with consolidation immunotherapy

we might improve the results for some of

the patients. So, we are eager to get new

results on this issue, and at this confer-

ence (ASCO 2017) we already have seen a

phase 2 trial looking at an immunotherapy

as consolidation. These results were pre-

sented here in the poster discussion, and

it is feasible, the toxicity is manageable, so

the hope is that through using immunother-

apy in these patients with stage 3 non-small

cell lung cancer, the systemic relapse can

be prevented in some patients.

Dr Caudle

Can you comment on some of

the current developments in the manage-

ment of malignant pleural mesothelioma,

and what are your thoughts regarding the

recent study showing benefit of adding of

target agents to chemotherapy?

Dr Eberhardt

Pleural mesothelioma is still a

disease with a large unmet need. We need

better systemic treatments. We have the

cisplatin and pemetrexed regimen, which

is a standard approach, but usually the

patient relapse. So we know that drugs,

VEGF-acting drugs, anti-angiogenic drugs,

and drugs acting on PD receptors, these

are interesting drugs. I mean, there is

data on bevacizumab in combination with

cisplatin/pemetrexed in the North American

Guidelines. The National Cancer Center,

the national guidelines also state that it

is possible to give bevacizumab in mes-

othelioma in combination with cisplatin/

pemetrexed.

It is not so much used in Europe, but in

the US you can use it, so we know that

targeted agents may improve the results

in some of the patients. We have seen at

this conference, also, that the new immu-

notherapy, the PD-1 or PD-L1 acting drugs,

these are interesting drugs because we’ve

seen that they work in some patients. And

it is possible, probably, also to give combi-

nations of chemotherapy with these new

antibodies, and probably thus we can

improve the systemic effect, and also by

improving the systemic effect we can also

have better local treatment.

Dr Caudle

What are some of the newer attrac-

tive agents or therapeutic developments

on the pipeline for treating mesothelioma?

Would you say it’s some of these PD-1 or

PD-L1s or are there other treatments that

you’re thinking about?

Dr Eberhardt

At the moment, I think there is

most interest in PD-1 and PD-L1 drugs and

there are trials ongoing. A randomized

phase 2 trial is going to be presented here

at ASCO that has quite interesting results,

and is probably the background for a fol-

low-up phase 3 trial. So phase 3 trials we

will need, but we know that patients who

have a high PD-L1 expression also that they

have a better response to PD-1 antibodies,

for instance, or PD-L1 antibodies, and so

also a patient selection could be possible,

and I think this will be progress for some

of the patients.

Upfront PD-1 inhibitor treatment for NSCLC:

a new paradigm

Dr Roy Herbst, Chief of Medical Oncology and the Associate

Director for Translational Research at the Yale Cancer Center

in New Haven, Connecticut, discusses the

impact of KEYNOTE 021 and 024 studies

on the upfront management of advanced

non-small cell lung cancer.

Critical issues in

thoracic oncology

Interview with Wilfried Eberhardt

MD

Dr Jennifer Caudle speaks with Dr Eberhardt, from the Department of

Medical Oncology at the West German Cancer Center at the University

Hospital Essen, University of Duisburg-Essen, on the use of immunotherapy

in the neoadjuvant setting for localised non-small cell lung cancer, and recent

developments in the management of malignant pleural mesothelioma.

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