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Morningstar FundInvestor
August 2015
when there were some losses over the last few
weeks. It’s unfortunate and it’s disappointing,
but it’s not really surprising. The government has
manipulated markets and intervened like this
pretty often in the past. I think it was unnecessary.
They did get pretty panicked, but things have at
least stabilized now.
RK
So, does that mean that soon these stocks may
resume trading? Have they communicated what the
criteria are for returning to trading?
AR
Almost half of the companies listed on the main
domestic board, the A-share market, suspended
themselves. Remember, these weren’t suspended by
the regulator; it was the companies asking to be
suspended to halt trading. Obviously, this was done
simply because they were worried that their share
price was going to go down rather than for any more-
substantive reasons. But within the last few days,
more than a third of the companies that suspended
themselves have unsuspended themselves and are
back trading again. So, I think the process is moving
back toward normal. The damage isn’t going to be
all that severe with regard to investors, but it does
illustrate that this is still a market that’s in its very
early days—think the U.S. markets before the
creation of the
SEC
in the
1930
s.
RK
Another interesting aspect to me is that large
owners of Chinese companies have been told not to
sell their shares. That makes me wonder whether
the price-discovery mechanism of the market is really
working when big sellers are not there. If I buy
in today, am I at risk of getting an inflated price?
AR
Well, it’s interesting because the majority of
shares in the A-share domestic market are held by
large-scale investors—often the corporations
themselves or some institutions that are connected
to the government. But
80%
of the turnover in that
domestic market is from small-scale retail investors.
That’s where you’ve had these waves of changes
in sentiment. The government is trying to put a floor
under it with the institutions now. We don’t know
yet, but my assumption is that the government advice,
requests, or orders to the large-scale investors not
to sell are probably coming off, given that the market
has stabilized in the last few days.
RK
And if I buy today—though, in a way, that’s not
really even possible when you’re talking about
A-shares because those are largely limited to Chinese
investors. So, let’s take a step back and say, for
U.S. investors and for Matthews funds, which have a
number of funds focused on Asia, what does this
mean? I assume these effects are more secondary
than direct.
AR
That’s right. The Chinese have deliberately limited
foreign exposure significantly. Foreigners own less
than
3%
of the market, so hardly any Americans are
in there. American exposure to China is primarily
through the Hong Kong-listed shares, and that’s the
same for us. Matthews Asia is the largest Asia-
only investment manager in the United States. We
have more than
$30
billion under management [in
the United States]—about
30%
of that is in Chinese
equities and almost all of that is not in the domestic
A-share market that has had these roller-coaster rides.
RK
So, looking at the investment universe that you
face, which is largely not the A-shares, do these
stocks look attractive? Obviously, the drama in the
Hong Kong shares has not been as wild as the
A-shares.
AR
That’s right. It’s been a lot less wild. For example,
if we go back about a month ago before the correc-
tion in the A-share market, the median forward P/E
in the A-share market was about
54
. The median
forward P/E in Hong Kong, however, where there is
more foreign participation or institutional participa-
tion, was only
14
. That’s why, before the correction,
the median forward P/E of all of Matthews Asia’s
China equities holdings was
17
, which coincidentally
was about the median forward P/E of the S
&
P at
that time.
K