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the functions of masters and district registrars in

civil cases by helping to reduce the area of dis–

pute, but

this would

involve a

fundamental

change in criminal procedure which in our view

is long overdue. The signs are that the Govern–

ment are thinking radically on this subject: Lord

Devlin has made a notable contribution to the

moulding of

informal opinion.

[The Solicitors

Journal].

LEGAL APPOINTMENT

Mr. Michael T. Neary, solicitor, of 3 Raglan

Road, Ballsbridge, has been appointed by

the

Government as Co. Registrar for the County and

Co. Borough of Dublin with effect from 19th

June.

He succeeds Mr. Michael O Cleirigh, who re-

retired recently. He was admitted a solicitor in

1943 and has since practised in Dublin.

BAIL DEBATES

12th April 1967—Fees of Medical Witnesses

Mr. Ryan asked the Minister for Justice if, having

regard to the new scale of minimum medico-legal

fees on a solicitor-client basis recommended to

be charged by medical witnesses for examinations,

reports, consultations and court attendances, he

will have copies of the new scales circulated to

taxing masters and county registrars; and if steps

will be taken to bring fees allowed on a party and

party basis into line with the new scale of fees,

having regard to the considerable burden which

such fees impose upon injured persons, particu–

larly poor persons, seeking remedies through the

courts for the wrongs and injuries to them.

Mr. B. Lenihan : The allowance to be made for

fees of professional witnesses in the taxation of

costs on a party and party basis is a matter for the

taxing master where the proceedings are in the

High Court and for the county registrar where

the proceedings are Circuit Court proceedings.

Costs on a solicitor and client basis are taxable

by the taxing master. Any party aggrieved by a

taxation may appeal to the High Court from a

taxing master and to the Circuit Court from a

county registrar. It is not for any professional

body to say what fees should or should not be

allowed on taxation.

As this whole matter has an important bearing

on the cost of litigation, I propose to refer it to

the Committee on Court Practice and Procedure

for examination. I have already asked the com–

mittee to consider a proposal to improve substan–

tially the present arrangements in the High Court

for settling issues in advance in chambers before

the Master.

In conclusion, I should like to emphasise that

I am not in any way to be taken as agreeing that

the scale of fees referred to in the question is

reasonable.

Mr. Ryan :

Is the Minister aware that these

fees have been recommended as the minimum fees

to be charged, that in fact these fees in some cases

have been charged by many members of

the

medical profession for some time past and that

the ordinary layman is naturally aggrieved when

he is awarded damages in court with costs and

subsequently finds himself obliged to part with

an additional £30 or £40

in respect of

the

expenses of expert witnesses? The layman simply

does not understand the legal gobbledegook and

the fact that the taxing master, who is supposed

to administer justice, administers it in such a way

that the successful litiganth as to part with £30

or £40 in respect of witnesses' expenses.

Mr. B. Lenihan: This

is part of the total

problem concerning the cost of litigation. As a

general observation, I would say that in many

cases, particularly in road accident cases, far too

many technical witnesses, especially medical wit–

nesses, are called on each side. That is why the

Committee on Court Practice and Procedure have

come forward with a suggestion for settling issues,

primarily technical issues, with the Master before–

hand. This should considerably cut costs in this

sphere, which, as the Deputy is aware, are un–

doubtedly rising. I would hope to have legislation

on this aspect in the coming months, which I

would hope would go some way to cutting these

costs. I agree with the Deputy that it is a serious

matter.

Mr. Ryan: Would

the Minister recommend

that the gap between party and party expenses

and solicitor and client expenses be closed?

Mr. B. Lenihan : What the Deputy is suggesting

is that the taxing master should allow costs in

respect of technical witnesses, some of which are

duplicating costs, and that I should suggest these

costs be raised. I will not go that far. I think they

are too high.

Fees of Medical Witnesses

Mr. Ryan asked the Minister for Health if, having

regard to the great difficulty which people of

limited means have in paying medico-legal fees

for examinations, reports and court attendances

of doctors, he will have steps

taken

to have

of doctors, he will have steps taken to have such

fees paid by health authorities in respect of medi-

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