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GAZETTE

College Historical Society:

MORA L I TY L E G I S L A T I ON IS NOT THE

CHURCH'S SPHERE - SENATOR

Senator Mary Robinson said that for too long in this

country the whole area of sexual morality had been

regarded as the proper sphere of Church leaders rather

than of politicians. Too many politicians had been

prepared to allow the bishops to make the political

judgment of the relationships between law and morality.

Senator Robinson was speaking to the motion "That

the State shall not legislate for private morality" at a

meeting of the College Historical Society in T.C.D.

She said that facing politicians with their full

responsibility meant opening up a key debate in this

fundamental area. It meant freeing politicians from any

fear of Church influence and preventing them from

abdicating their own role. The essence of morality was the

assumption of personal responsibility.

When people began to fear the courts rather than treat

them as their servants, a monster was created. People

may fear the courts because only those with money or

with some standing in the community could safely and

comfortably approach them; or because the courts were

more and more identified with punishing sinners. If a

court penalised a man for being drunk and disorderly it

was supposed to be protecting other men, women and

children; it was not supposed to be punishing a sinner.

The idea that Courts were punishing instruments was at

the root of much of our troubles. "Once you admit that

Courts can punish sin, or wrongdoing, and thus shift the

emphasis from protection to punishment you leave the

way open for quite sterile debates, like, the debate about

legislating for private morality.

Legislation should protect the person

"We have to clear away the ambiguity of what the

courts are supposed to be doing and what they are

actually doing, in order to forstall such sterile debates.

You should ask about every piece of legislation, does it

protect the person, does it protect the people in general?

To decide such questions we employ lawyers and

politicians. And we pay them well. The first question of all

of them must answer is, does this or that law or court

protect or threaten.

"Too often, however, they have not answered the

question at all and have asked instead, will this law or this

Court help to keep us in power? There begins the

corruption of a state.

"It was through the political process that they had to

consider decisions about the extent to which the law

should regulate the availability of contraceptives; about

whether the problem of marriage breakdown would be

helped by providing the remedy of divorce; about the

operation of censorship; about whether they should

promote integrated schooling in a positive way; and about

the response of the evidence of high abortion figures for

Irish girls in Britain.

Politicians the arbiters of morality

"Politicians could not dodge their responsibility for

assessing and promoting the common good on this strife-

torn island. Morality was not confined to areas of sexual

morality — it permeated the whole political process and

should form a more conscious part in the general

approach of politicians to the whole range of political

options and decisions.

"So what are the standards and values which should

help us to work out proper relationship between law and

morality, and who should take the responsibility for doing

MARCH 1977

it?" she asked. "The second question is easier to answer

than thefirst: it is not the responsibility of Church leaders,

nor of philosophers, nor of lawyers, but of politicians.

"The assessment must be a political one and the basic

criteria on which it is formed will depend on a political

judgement of what constitutes the common good. This

may depress those who lack faith in politicians and in the

political process, but it is a vital factor "which has

extraordinary implication^".

Senator Robinson said that the relationship between

law and morality was a complex and difficult one, and

this difficulty had been compounded by problems of

language and by lack of definition of terms. Discussion in

Ireland had been influenced by the wording of the

Constitution, Article 40 of which guaranteed liberty to

exercise a number of basic rights, such as freedom of

expression, freedom of assembly, and freedom of

association, "subject to public order and morality".

This qualification had led to a distinction being drawn

between public morality which was ambiguous and

ultimately unhelpful. There were not two moralities — one

identifiable as public and the other as private — but rather

two spheres of actions which may be performed either in

public or in private, she said.

A separate and further distinction had to be made

between those actions which should not be regulated and

controlled by the law. There were a number of examples

of immoral actions which we did not consider suitable for

regulation by the criminal law, such as a relationship of

adultery, telling lies (except under formal oath) or

excessive drinking).

Similarly, there may be very private actions which they

considered should be brought under legal control, such as

an attempt by a woman to procure her own miscarriage.

Court's duty essentially to protect the individual

The Rev. Desmond Wilson, from Ballymurphy,

Belfast, said the Courts and the laws were set up first and

foremost to protect the citizen as an individual and as a

member of society. In many countries the laws and the

Courts were used in such a way that they seemed not a

protection at all but a threat, another means of keeping

power, a means of controlling the population.

Fr. Wilson said the essential quality of law was that it

protected. The essential relationship between the

citizen and the Courts was one of comfort "Change that

and you have begun to sow the seeds of a bitter

revolution. That is what we have seen in Northern

Ireland. We have changed the Court from instruments of

protection to instruments of threat We did die same with

the church and the politicians".

Fr. Wilson said that those who were suggesting that

punishment was not a relevant concept in the laws or

courts were not just an unruly crowd of anarchists. They

were people who believed that the evolution of our

thought about how people behaved was moving us in the

direction of rethinking and perhaps eliminating the idea of

punishment from our laws and Courts; to any citizens this

would come not only as a surprise but a shock. The

strange thing was that more were shocked at the thought

of removing punishment than by the possibility of

lessening it. That itself says much about the kind of

society we have created.

"It would be a great pity if discussion about the

meaning of courts and about the meaning of sin, or of

private morality and the common good were to be

narrowed into discussion about contraception and its

related topics. This is to narrow the field far too much.

That problem is a very real one."

Private morality should not be legislated for. "We don't

need it", Fr. Wilson said.