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an assurance that, before legislation of they type

indicated

is

introduced, he will ascertain

the

views of the governing bodies of both branches

of the legal profession?

Mr. B. Lenihan :

Yes. Both branches of the

legal profession can have that assurance

that

only after the fullest consultation with them will

the new legislation be introduced.

Note

It is understood that the Minister at a

Meeting of Tuarim

(Limerick Branch)

in

January stated he had changed his mind about

fusing both branches of the legal profession.

Stamp Duty on Property Sales

Mr. Cosgrave asked the Minister for Finance

if he is aware of the substantially higher rate of

stamp duty payable on a conveyance or transfer

on sale of property in this country compared

with that prevailing in Britain; and if, as an

incentive

towards encouraging an

increase

in

number of owner-occuriers of houses, he will con

sider revising the stamp duty payable in such

cases.

Mr. Childers :

The answer to the first part of

the Deputy's question is in the affirmative.

The matter raises in the second part of the

question

is one which would require Finance

Bill legislation and the Deputy will appreciate

that I cannot indicate in advance what proposals

the next Budget Statement may or may not

contain.

Mr. Cosgrave :

Can the Minister say whether

this will be sympathetically considered as an in

centive towards owner-occupiers buying their own

houses ?

Mr. Childers :

I think the Deputy can be as

sured that the Minister for Finance will consider

all such cases in the light of the Budget con

ditions as they will arise in the coming year.

Free Legal Aid

Mr. M. J. O'Higgins asked the Minister for

Justice if he will state in relation to the free

legal aid scheme

the number of applications

granted to the latest available date (a) in Dublin

city and county, (b) in Cork city and county,

and (c) in the rest of the country.

Minister for Justice (Mr. B. Lenihan): The

number of certificates granted in the half-year

ended 30th September, 1965 is as follows:

(a)

Dublin city and country 28; (B) Cork city and

county 20; (c) remainder of the country 14.

Mr. M. J. O'Higgins: What is the total then?

Mr. B. Lenihan: Sixty-two.

Mr. P. O'Donnell asked

the Minister

for

Justice

the number of cases

in each District

Court area throughout the State where legal aid

has been granted since the passing of the Criminal

Justice (Legal Aid) Act, 1962.

Mr. B. Lenihan: The statistics which are avail

able relate to districts of the District Court and

cover the first six months of the operation of

the scheme, that is the period up to 30th Septem

ber, 1965. The information is in the form of a

tabular statement which, with your permission,

a Cheann Comhairle, I propose to have circul

ated with the Official Report.

Following is the statement:—

Criminal Justice (Legal Aid) Act, 1962

Criminal Justice (Legal Aid) Regulations, 1965

Number of legal aid certificates granted in Dis

tricts of the District Court during the period

from 1st April to 30th September, 1965.

District

No. 2

(Manorhamilton

....

No. 5 (Cavan) ................

No. 6 (Dundalk) .............

No. 7

(Galway)

.............

No. 8

(Ballinasloe) ..........

No. 14

(Limerick)

..........

No. 18 (Bandon) .............

No. 19 (Cork) ................

No. 21 (Clonmel) .............

Dublin Metropolitan

.......

Total

Number of Certs.

Granted

2

2

2

1

2

1

2

15

2

19

48

Mr. Sweetman :

Will the Minister give us some

idea of the total number?

Mr. B. Lenihan : Again, this will require some

quick mathematics; it is 48.

Mr. Sweetman :

If it is 48, I cannot see why

you have to have a tabular statement.

Mr. B. Lenihan :

It is because of the different

numbers in regard to the particular districts.

Mr. Sweetman :

I do not believe, if it is set

out in the tabular statement for each area, that

the total was calculated by the Minister off the

cuff. I expect it was sitting there waiting.

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