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THE SOCIETY

Proceedings of the Council

MEETINGS OF THE COUNCIL

OCTOBER 19th

The President in the chair also present Messrs Walter

Beatty, Bruce St. J. Blake, John Carrigan, Anthony E.

Collins, Laurence Cullen, Gerard M. Doyle, James R.

C. Green, Christopher Hogan, Michael P. Houlihan,

Thomas Jackson, Jnr., Francis J. Lanigan, Eunan

McCarron, Patrick McEntee, Brendan A. McGrath,

John Maher, Patrick C. Moore, Senator J. J. Nash,

George A. Nolan, Ptter E. O'Connell, Rory O'Connor,

Thomas V. O'Connor, Patrick F. O'Donnell, William

A. Osborne, Peter D. M. Prentice, Mrs. Moya Quinlan,

Robert McD. Taylor, Ralph J. Walker.

Extraordinary members from Northern Ireland

The President on behalf of the Council welcomed

Messrs J. A. Young, President and John L. Pinkerton,

Council member of the Incorporated Law Society of

Northern Ireland who were present by invitation.

Stipulation » in agreement for leases with regard to ccsts

and outlay

It was decided to take the opinion of Counsel as to

whether the Society have power to make a Professional

Practice Regulation prohibiting stipulations in con-

tracts obliging a lessee to pay the lessor's stamp duty

and other outlay including mapping fees and having

certificates of compliance endorsed on leases and other

matters.

Private Motorists' Protection Association

The Association issued a letter to members, who carry

third party insurance only, advising them that where

they are not responsible for the accident they will be

making a claim direct on the third party involved and

should they experience any difficulty with the claim to

contact the legal department of P.M.P.A. who may be

in a position to give assistance. The Society was in

correspondence with the P.M.P.A. who wrote stating

that on receipt of a request for assistance from member

the Association would confirm to a solicitor chosen by

the member that it will pay any costs recovered as the

result of taking the case on its behalf. The Council on a

report from a committee stated that there is no objec-

tion to this procedure provided that the member of the

Association should have the right to choose his own

solicitor at the expense of P.M.P.A.

Professional undertakings

Members asked for guidance as to their obligations

on the following form of undertaking :

We hereby undertake that in the event of our

client entering into a contract for the sale of the

leasehold interest then any balance outstanding on

foot of this debt be paid out of the proceeds of

sale within three days of completion of the sale.

The negotiations for the sale broke down and no

contract was signed. The clients continued to pay the

specified instalments of the debt and eventually the

premises were again offered for sale through different

auctioneers and the contract was signed for a figure

much lower than the figure agreed at the previous

abortive sale. It then became clear that the amount of

the purchase money was insufficient to pay off the

company's creditors in full. After the contract was

signed but before completion of the sale the company

went into voluntary liquidation. The question arose as

to whether the claim of the liquidator to the proceeds of

sale took priority over member's undertaking to the

particular creditor. The Council having considered the

matter advised members to seek a direction of the Court

as to the legal position.

The committee were prima facie of the opinion that

the situation had radically changed since the date of

the undertaking although it was phrased in general

terms "entering into a contract" the contract contem-

plated at the date of the undertaking no longer exists

and in fact never came into being. The Council how-

ever refrained from expressing any opinion on the legal

or professional aspect of the matter without a direction

of the Court.

In another matter members enclosed a form of under-

taking submitted to them by the local branch manager

undertaking to hold documents on completion and

trust for the bank and to lodge them as soon as the usual

formalities in connection with stamping, registration

and legal searches have been completed and not to

allow while the documents remained in their possession

any act which would result in the property being

mortgaged or assigned without the bank's consent. They

asked for guidance as to their professional and financial

position. The Council on a report from a committee

stated that in the event of completion of the under-

taking members would be involved both in professional

and financial liability. They were further advised that in

the absence of an irrevocable authority and retainer

members might be bound to hand over the documents

and would then be caught between their obligations

under the undertaking and their instructions from the

client.

Land Registration costs

The Council were informed that rules giving an

effect to an increase of 30% in the costs of voluntary

transfers and applications under Rules 33-35 and costs

under Rules 121 (6) have been made with effect from

2nd October 1972.

District Court Costs

New District Court costs are in operation since 1st

September 1972.

Building Societies and completion of transactions

In formal discussions between lending bodies' solici-

tors and representatives of the Society it was arranged

to discuss a number of matters of interest to the

profession. It was suggested on behalf of the Society

that lending institutions should not insist that a bor-

rower be registered with absolute title in respect of

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