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TURN: WASHINGTON’S SPIES

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How much did you already know about the

American Revolution before taking on the

role of AbrahamWoodhull?

JAMIE BELL:

I hope my teachers don’t slay

me for saying this — and I might be wrong —

but I learned literally nothing about that time in

history. Even when I was reading the pilot script,

I was like, “What are we talking about here?”

We learned about all the other wars, but for

some reason, the Revolutionary War just wasn’t

something that was in textbooks. I was just

amazed from reading the scripts by how little I

knew about it.

Have you read the book on which the series

is based, Alexander Rose’sWashington’s

Spies?

Yes. I was amazed by how little America as

a whole knew about these people who did this

incredible thing. People would ask me what

I’ve been up to and I’d say, “A show about the

Culper Ring,” assuming that it was definitely a

part of American curriculum. Everyone would

be like, “Culper what?” I was blown away —

it’s so unknown. I think what Alexander’s book

has done, and hopefully what we’ll do with the

show, is shed some light and show people that

beyond just Washington as this great leader and

commander were incredibly hard-working people

underneath him who took all these risks to pave

the way for the future of the country.

What kind of research did you do on the life

of the real AbrahamWoodhull?

I emailed back and forth a lot with Alexander

Rose and he emailed me a link to some of the

letters that Abe Woodhull sent to Washington

and Ben Tallmadge. His handwriting was

incredibly difficult to read, and I think I know

why. In filming the show, I often have to jot

down a lot of information and I realized why

you can’t read any of Abe’s writing –- it’s

because he had to write incredibly quickly

because he was always worried someone was

going to catch him. One thing that stood out

was just how paranoid he was about his own

life. If you were caught, you’d be hung the

next day. There’s not a lot known about Abe

Woodhull. There’s much more written about

the other characters, like Ben Tallmadge, who’s

incredibly well-documented. If you know about

a spy, that’s often because they weren’t very

good. The fact that we know next to nothing

about Abe says it all.

Could you imagine yourself as a spy during

those times?

No, and that’s why Abe Woodhull as a

character is so vulnerable. He’s not ready for

this. He’s not James Bond. He’s really afraid. To

really walk that line and endanger my family -– I

don’t think I could handle those pressures.

Did you watch any other series

or movies set during the Revolution

to prepare for your role?

I watched John Adams almost every day. That

show really focuses on the politics of the time.

There are some great speeches in there and

some great moments to remember what it is

these people are fighting for.

Do you think there are any similarities

between you and Abe?

Well, he’s also a father and he thinks a lot

about his son’s future. He has very broad ideas

about politics and life and right and wrong. I

think, in some ways, he’s a dreamer.

You’ve said in the past you prefer not to

watch your own work. Did you find you

needed to make an exception withTurn to

get reacquainted with Abe before filming the

new season?

I definitely refreshed myself. I went back and

watched the pilot a lot because it sets the tone

of the show. I often go back to it as the blueprint

for the character. There’s also a lot of focus

on other characters this year. Benedict Arnold

is introduced, and there’s a lot more focus on

people like General Washington and Captain

Simcoe. It’s a lot more of an ensemble piece.

What I’m looking forward to is watching other

people’s work that I don’t get to see on set.

I was amazed by how little America as a whole knew

about these people who did this incredible thing.

Turn:

Washington’s

Spies: The

Complete First

Season

is out May 24