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T

he Griswolds’

High Times For

Low Lives

refuses to conform

to any particular genre, and that’s

exactly what the group were

gunning for. “There wasn’t really

anything we were trying to do,

genre-wise,” says frontman Chris

Whitehall. “We wanted to steer clear

from this second release just being

Be Impressive

Volume 2. We wanted

to be creative and to be influenced

by anything and everything. There

are songs on there that sound like

old school funk, and R’n’B, and even

hip hop. Then there’s [lead single]

Out Of My Head

, which is still an

anthem rock song at heart.”

One of our top picks is

You Don’t

Love Me

– turns out it’s about Chris

pining after an elusive tryst. “All of

these songs are telling little stories

from the last few years of my life,

and my relationship status at that

point,” he says. “On

You Don’t Love

Me

, I’d just met this

fantastic woman and I

fell in love with her after

a one night stand,” he

laughs, “which is a pretty

rare thing. She didn’t want

a bar of it – there I was

trying to take her out for

dinner and see her more

and being needy, and she

wasn’t having any of it. Not

interested.” The record was

brought together with the

help of Andrew Dawson,

a producer who’s worked with

the likes of Kanye and Gambino.

According to Chris, he’s always

been someone The Griswolds have

wanted on board. “Every time we

make an album, we make a shortlist

of the people we want to work with.

Us being huge fans of Kanye’s stuff,

we had [Dawson] on our list. He

heard all our demos and came back

to us: ‘I need this album – I have to

have it. I don’t want to just mix it, I

want to produce the whole thing.’”

They were stunned – for the band,

it was like working with royalty. “It

was kind of scary as well. We’re

pretty touchy with that kind of stuff

because we usually do a lot of the

production ourselves. But it ended

up being the right move – we got

into the studio and it was a dream

come true. He was so open to ideas

– even the craziest idea could be

experimented on. I guess he had

a trial by fire working with Kanye –

apparently he’s one of the hardest

people to work with.”

Chris was listening to a bit of

everything to draw inspiration for

new tracks: “Prince and Michael

Jackson are all over the album. Tame

Impala’s

Currents

is my favourite

album on the planet at the moment.

The Weeknd... Marvin Gaye...

Kendrick’s

To Pimp A Butterfly

. All

those influences were just seeping

into us subconsciously, and it all

came out in the album.”

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NEWS

continued

Q1/

There are numerous cross-overs between

other bands amongst your members. Does material

ever drift sideways?

Yeah for sure; it happens occasionally. On this album,

Precious Hands

started life as a jam I brought in when we

were rehearsing up songs with Saskwatch to record for

Sorry I Let It Come Between Us

. The fortunate thing for

me, with our friends who are singers (Ella, Jarrad, Nkechi

to name a few), is that they're exceptionally talented and

have unique voices which give the songs such character,

so even if it was a Saskwatch or Dorsal Fins song

originally, they bring their own thing to it and push it in

another direction.

Q2/

The rhythms are so integral to these tracks –

they’re impossibly jangly, like Primal Scream. Do

you ever start with beats and build from there, the

hip hop way?

Yeah, that's how we do it with the Fins. I'll write the

music first and send it to Jarrad or Ella (or a guest like Tim

Karmouche, Nick Vorrath, or Tim Nelson and Cub Sport, on

this album) and they'll come up with the melody and lyrics.

THE GRISWOLDS

LIAM McGORRY

DORSAL FINS

INTERVIEW

FACTOID:

The Griswolds are named for the fictional family in the 1983 film

National Lampoon's Vacation

, whose patriarch is played by Chevy Chase.

Words

Alesha Kolbe

Then we jam it with the band. We love a lot of funk, disco,

beats and of course Primal Scream. Music that really lifts

you up.

Q3/

The end of

When It All Comes Down To Love

has an epic Arcade Fire feel to it, with

just

enough

noise to feel completely free. Is it possible to layer

too much, so that everything gets murky

kind of

like how if you mix all the paints together it comes

out brown?

Of course. I feel like recording with Dorsal Fins is really

about throwing everything at the wall, seeing what sticks

and then peeling back eight or nine layers, because we got

really carried away. It's a really tough balance not to have

it turn out 'brown', but I think we're getting better at it.

Q4/

The album sounds like you have had more time

to distil exactly what you wanted from each track

Digital Zodiac

by

Dorsal Fins is out now

via Remote Control.

High Times

For Low

Lives

by The

Griswolds is

out November

11 via Chugg

Music/MGM.

(compared to

Mind Renovation

) –

was there a careful effort to allot

brain power to each stage of the

process?

Yeah, that's exactly right.

Mind

Renovation

is perhaps a bit more

chaotic a record, and people have

said to me that each song sounds like

a completely different band. I guess

going in to this record, we wanted to

get the feeling of a journey (as I think

we did with

Mind Renovation

), but to

make sure that the band sounded a

bit more like Dorsal Fins and not 10

different bands. We also wanted it

to reflect the live band a bit more in

terms of instrumentation, which has

been great.

Q5/

Your album cover shot is at Parliament station.

What does it mean to you, other than being a good

Melbourne meeting place?

I think to me, Marcelle's [Bradbeer, photographer]

shot was really apt for the cover, in that the name

Digital

Zodiac

is referring to movement, searching, travel and

finding your way. I feel like where we're at now, compared

to where we were a year ago (releasing

Mind Renovation

and starting out as a band) is a world away, and we're still

travelling and learning together. It's great.

INTERVIEW