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and Lou says, ‘Do you know I’ve never

once cursed in front of an employer?’ It

makes no sense. It’s just absurd. He’s

going back to some sort of respectable

corporate behaviour that doesn’t have

any bearing on what’s going on. He’s

disconnected.

What were your conversations with Jake

Gyllenhaal like?

Very intense and very deep. I flew to

Atlanta when he was shooting

Prisoners

to discuss him doing the part. We had a

dinner and we decided very early on that

we were going to collaborate intensely,

with a lot of rehearsal. I’m sort of a

degenerate gambler and I just like taking

risks. Jake is just utterly fearless and he

wanted to try things. He respected the

script, and not one word of the script got

changed. He approached it like a play, so

I was extraordinarily happy to work with

him because he respected the work, and I

wanted to respect his ability to come in and

breathe life into it in a way that I was not

capable of. As an example, the weight loss

– that was Jake’s idea.

How did he propose that to you?

We were talking a lot about the symbol

of the character, and we thought of a

coyote. There’s never a fat coyote – they’re

always perpetually lean. They’re just always

hungry and they come down out of the hills

at night to feed, so we thought of Lou as

a nocturnal predator. Jake said, ‘Coyotes

are always lean. I’m thinking of getting

a coyote look.’ I said, ‘Great,’ but to be

honest, as a filmmaker, with people you’re

responsible for, it’s a scary proposition.

It all makes sense now, but believe me,

when he lost 25 pounds and we started

shooting dailies, it’s scary. You start looking

at it going, ‘Oh my God, is this really what

we’re going to go with?’ But it works

perfectly. When you watch

Prisoners

, Jake

created that persona, with the tattoos

and the eye tick. That’s terrifying to a

filmmaker. But you have to go, ‘That’s a

really interesting idea. Let’s try that.’ Jake

wants to try, and you get your best with

Jake when you allow him to try. I think Jake

and I got along so well because we were

not afraid to try. There were moments

when Jake would do something on set and

even I wasn’t sure. I was going, ‘That’s

probably too far out there.’ Then you’re in

the editing room, going, ‘Dammit, man,

that is definitely what you want to do.’ It

was just a joy working with him.

At the station, are those real

newscasters?

Every newscaster in our film is an actual

newscaster. These are the stars of LA local

news.

Did any of them hesitate to participate?

I asked them, ‘Have you read the script?

Do you want to be involved in this?’ They

all said, ‘Yeah!’ I think all of them were like,

‘That’s not our station – the other stations

do that.’

Tell us about casting Rene Russo.

I wrote the part for her because I always

saw Nina as somebody who had a really

tough exterior. Just like we were always

trying to find the human side of Lou, I

always wanted to find the human side of

Nina. I never wanted people to just look

at Nina and go, ‘Here’s a woman who is

desperate and forces things to work out for

her own profit.’ This is a woman at a point

in her life at which her health insurance is

extremely important, and being able to pay

her rent is supremely important. I knew

that Rene could bring out the other side.

What I love about the restaurant scene

with Rene is when he talks about the

fact that she has a two-year contract, and

there’s this moment where she drops her

head and she sort of nods a little bit, and

you can just see everything break, and you

can see that it’s real. Rene has the ability,

I think, to bring out a human empathetic

side that can add another dimension to a

character that might just come across as

conventional. I very much wrote it for her.

It’s my favourite scene in the movie, that

scene between the two of them.

What was the biggest challenge in

making this movie?

We had 80 locations, and only had 28

days to shoot it. There were many times

that we moved two different times in

a night. You’re taking 100 people and a

line of vehicles that stretches almost a

quarter mile, moving from one location

at 2 o’clock in the morning, and then you

have to get to another location and shoot

another three pages. The weird thing is, on

most films, when you’re shooting outside

on a tight budget, it’s usually when the

sun goes down that you start to go, ‘Oh,

that’s the end of the day.’ For us, it was

when the sun came up. Once the birds

started chirping, it was, ‘Oh, God! The sun

is coming up. Just give us another five

minutes of darkness.’ That was the hardest

part. When Jake runs down the driveway

and he’s telling Rick, ‘You should have done

this,’ the birds were chirping, and people

were delivering newspapers.”

Have the real night-crawlers seen the

film yet?

Oh yeah, Howard saw it with his

brothers – he works with his two brothers

– and they loved it. They loved it because

it was accurate. It was very important to

them that it was accurate. They’ll say, ‘We

don’t do that kind of stuff,’ but they wanted

the police codes to be right, they wanted

their jargon to be right. They said, ‘If we’re

involved, it has to be real. You have to

really show them what it’s like.’ It is utterly

real. Everything we show, Bill Paxton’s

character, people like that – I encountered

them.

This is the world they live in.

Ton

ight they’ll go out. They’ll go out

se

ven days a week.

Is

it lucrative?

Yeah, they make 50, 75, 100

tho

usand dollars a year. It’s lucrative

com

pared to some other jobs.

with

DAN GILROY

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Nightcrawler is out now