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GAZETTE

MARCH 1977

COUNCIL OF THE SOCIETY

LAND REGISTRY

Report of meeting held in the Department of Justice on 27

January 1977

1. The meeting was the fourth in a series of meetings

being held periodically between the Council of the

Incorporated Law Society and the Department of Justice

to discuss Land Registry matters.

2. Present

Representing the Incorporated Law Society:

Mr. Ivers

(Director General), Mr. Buckley, Mr. Lanigan, Mr.

Moore, Mr. McEvoy, Mr. Noonan, Mr. O'Donnell.

Representing the Department of Justice:

Mr. Donnelly,

Mr. Griffith (Registrar of Titles), Mr. Early, Mr.

McMahon.

3. Mr. Donnelly welcomed the Law Society

representatives and Mr. Ivers said that they appreciated

the opportunity to air their views.

4. In the course of a wide-ranging discussion the

following were the principal matters discussed :-

(a) the overall position about delays in the Land

Registry, particularly insofar as certain

categories of work were concerned;

(b) a deterioration in the position about priority

searches;

(c) the difficulties being caused by Folios not being

available for inspection because they were "out"

e.g. with a dealing — the difficulties being

particularly pronounced where "omnibus" folios

(i.e. where a number of holdings was registered

on the one folio) were concerned;

(d) the necessity for having Land Certificates at all;

(e) the map reconstruction programme;

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difficulties in connection with Maps required in

sub-division cases;

(g) the position regarding availability of Ordnance

Survey maps;

(h) delays in First Registration cases;

(i) some implications of the Landlord and Tenant

Bill, 1977;

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difficulties caused for solicitors by the Registrar's

requirements under the Family Home Protection

Act, 1976; and

(k) complaints about the Registry of Deeds.

5. The overall position about delays

The Law Society representatives felt that the position

about delays, particularly where First Registrations,

Transfers of part and copy Maps were concerned, were at

an unacceptably high level. Mr. Donnelly said that the

difficulty was that, while the intake of work in the Land

Registry was increasing significantly, no additional staff

could be recruited to handle the increased work-load

because of a general service-wide embargo on the creation

of new posts.

Mr. Moore asked if statistical information about intake

of work, delays, etc. could be made available to the Law

Society. Mr. Donnelly said that there would be no

difficulty about this. He suggested that, perhaps, Mr.

Ivers would specify the Law Society's requirements in the

matter.

6. A deterioration in the position about priority

searches

Mr. Buckley mentioned that, in his experience, the

position about Priority Searches had been generally

satisfactory until recently when he had noticed a marked

lengthening in the time taken to complete these searches.

Mr. Griffith said that he was not aware of any change

in the position but he promised to look into the matter.

7. The difficulties being caused by folios not being

available for inspection

The difficulties were particularly pronounced where

omnibus Folios were concerned.

Mr. Griffith said that some of the Folios were

constantly in use in different areas of the Registry and,

accordingly, might not be readily available for inspection.

Various suggestions as to how to solve the problem

were discussed, including the possibility of having

duplicate Folios maintained in a certain fixed location in

the Registry.

It was agreed that the Registrar would consider the

matter further.

8. The necessity for having Land Certificates at all

Mr. Moore, in particular, considered that Land

Certificates were much more of a liability (e.g. through

danger of loss) than an asset in the process of Registration.

It was agreed that the Registrar would consider

whether, or to what extent, the use of Land Certificates

might be reduced. (The Registrar pointed out that

amending legislation would be involved if the Land

Certificates were to be abolished altogether).

9. The Map Reconstruction programme

Mr. Lanigan drew attention to the estimate given at the

last meeting (on 5 February 1976) that the pilot scheme

for Co. Carlow would be completed before the end of

1976.

Mr. Griffith said that the completion of the pilot

scheme had taken longer than anticipated because of

unexpected snags which had arisen. The present target

date for completion was April. It was then hoped to start

on the reconstruction of the Dublin maps.

10. Difficulties in connection with Maps required in

Sub-division cases

These difficulties have arisen as a consequence of the

Registrar's requirement that applications should be

accompanied by plans drawn on the current largest scale

Ordnance Survey maps (in accordance with the Land

Registration Rules 1972). This requirement was discussed

at the last meeting when it was agreed that it would

operate from 1st September 1976.

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