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Life and Death Planning for Retirement Benefits

would be includible in the participant’s gross income and would therefore be subject to the

penalty. See Reg.

§ 1.402A-1

, A-3.

D.

Conversion followed by distribution within five years.

See

¶ 5.5.02

for a special rule

that may result in a penalty being applied to the return of the participant’s own contribution.

5.5.02

Roth conversion prior to reaching age 59½

Roth conversions before age 59½ are very confusing, because there are TWO of

everything:

There are TWO separate parts of the Roth IRA, the contribution(s) and the earnings.

There are TWO different taxes to worry about, the income tax and the 10 percent

penalty.

There are TWO completely different five-year holding periods!

A.

Penalty does not apply to a Roth conversion.

The 10 percent penalty does not apply to

the deemed distribution that results from converting a traditional retirement plan or IRA to

Roth status

. § 408A(d)(3)(A)(ii) ; § 402A(c)(4)(D) ;

Reg.

§ 1.408A-4 ,

A-7(b); Notice 2008-

30, A-3. Thus a young person may convert his traditional plan or IRA to a Roth IRA

without penalty.

However, this does not mean he can forget about the 10 percent penalty. The 10 percent

penalty can still come into the picture in several ways. For one thing, the penalty would apply to

any income taxes withheld from the conversion amount

(¶ 2.3) ;

such a tax payment would not

qualify for the “conversion exception” since it is sent to the IRS and not converted to a Roth IRA.

Also, the penalty applies to nonqualified distributions of earnings from the Roth account; see

5.5.01 (

B), (C). And:

B.

Penalty applies to certain distributions within five years after a conversion.

Though a

person who is under age 59½ can convert to a Roth IRA without penalty, he has to come

up with the money to pay the income tax on the conversion from some source other than

the newly-converted Roth IRA money, because he will owe the penalty to the extent he

taps that money, under the following special rule:

If a participant who is under the age of 59½ receives a distribution from a Roth IRA or

DRAC; and “any portion” of that distribution is allocable (se

e ¶ 5.2.07

for Roth IRAs

, ¶ 5.7.05

for

DRACs) to funds that were rolled over to the Roth account from a traditional plan account or IRA;

and “the distribution is made within the 5-taxable-year period beginning with the first day of the

individual’s taxable year in which the conversion contribution was made”; then th

e § 72(t)

penalty

will apply to “such portion” of the distribution to the extent such portion was includible in the

employee’s gross income (unless an exception applies).

§ 408A(d)(3)(F) ;

Reg.

§ 1.408A-6 ,

A-

5(b); Notice 2008-30, A-3. See

¶ 9.2 ¶ 9.4

for the exceptions to the 10 percent penalty.

The

§ 72(t)

penalty generally does not apply to distributions from a governmental 457(b)

plan. Accordingly, if the distribution comes from a DRAC in a 457(b) plan it will generally not be

subject to the penalty even if it represents a Roth conversion within five years; see

¶ 5.7.11 .

The

exception: 457 distributions that represent money rolled into the 457 plan from another type of

plan are subject to the penalty.

§ 72(t)(1) , (9) ; § 4974(c) .