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and apparently accepted in the case of a wide

range of business and other occupations, e.g.

stockbrokers,

literary

agents,

commodity

factors, and business generally which protects

itself against rising costs by fixing profit as a

percentage

on

turnover.

Solicitors,

like

business-men generally, are in a risk occu

pation — they have not the security and

pensions of salaried employees and officials.

(e)

Solicitors more

than any other profession

must transact business for a widely varying

clientele from wealthy companies to individ

uals with little means. Many transactions have

great personal but

little

tangible property

value — e.g. family and personal problems.

It would be impossible to time-cost each case

and charge on the basis of cost plus. As a

matter of practical business the profession

must look for its remuneration where the

resources exist.

(/) Nobody has properly examined the alternatives

to cross-subsidisation or the consequences of

its abolition.

(g)

The recommendation in the PIB Report that

charges for smaller conveyancing deals should

be increased, and charges in large deals should

be reduced, will have small appeal for the

poorer client.

BRENDAN McGRATH,

Solicitor

(Reprinted from Ledrgas

The Journal of

the Irish Institute of Administration —

March

1970).

"WHICH" ON CONVEYANCING —

POSTAGES, TRAVELLING AND

TELEPHONES

The magazine "WHICH" (Consumers' Asso

ciation) is widely read in Ireland and for this

reason the recent issue which was devoted largely

to conveyancing, will be of interest

to

Irish

practitioners and

their clients. That particular

issue contained views which are contrary to the

long-established opinion and practice of the pro

fession in the following respects. These related

inter alia

to postages and telephone calls and

agency fees on completing transactions and it

was stated that they are covered by the Com

mission scale fee where chargeable.

As regards postages, telephone calls and similar

disbursements, clause 4 of the Solicitors' Remuner

ation General Orders 1884-1964 consolidated,

printed at page 182 of the Members' Handbook

is as follows:

The remuneration prescribed by Schedule 1

in

this Order, is not

to

include stamps

counsel's

fees,

auctioneer's

or

valuer's

charges, travelling or hotel expenses, fees

paid on searches to public offices on regis

trations .... costs of extracts from any

register, record, or roll, or other disburse

ment reasonably and properly paid .... but

shall

include

law

stationers charges and

allowances for the time of the solicitor and

his clerks and for copying and parchment

and all other similar disbursements.

It is the view of the Council and in accordance

with

the

long-established practice of the pro

fession that the amount spent by a solicitor on

postages and telephone calls for a client is just

as much a chargeable disbursement as for example

a search fee. The Council see no reason to alter

this view.

As regards agency fees for completing trans

actions, it is clear that a solicitor cannot charge

a scale fee and at the same time include in his

bill as profit charges the fees of another solicitor

who acts as his agent on the completion of a

transaction or carries out other work which is

covered by the scale fee. However a solicitor is

entitled to charge as disbursement in his bill the

amount which he reasonably spends on travelling

to complete the transaction and any necessary

accommodation and subsistence

in accordance

with clause 4 mentioned above. There is therefore

no objection to his charging in his bill the amount

of the agent's fees for completing a transaction

provided that they do not exceed the expenses

which he would have incurred in travelling and

for subsistence had he attended personally to com

plete the business.

SOLICITORS APPRENTICES

DEBATING SOCIETY

The Inaugural Meeting for the session 1969-70

was held in the Library, Solicitors Buildings, on

Friday 24th April, 1970, when Mr. Michael S.

Roche, B.C.L., delivered his inaugural address

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