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GAZETTE

JULY/AUGUST 1983

Correspondence

The Editor.

28th June 1983

Th e Incorporated Law Society of Ireland Gazette,

Blackhall Place.

Dub l in 7.

I r ememb e r, about fifteen years ago, coming across a

little bo ok which set out a kind of legal shorthand which

had c ome to be used by practising lawyers. I think the

book wou ld have been published maybe fifty or sixty

years ago. The system outlined was not a shorthand in

the sense of using signs such as in Pitman or Gregg but

rather a well worked out system of abbreviations for

wo rd s, especially abbreviations for legal expressions

continually in use.

I have always regretted that I did not buy that little

book on the occasion in question and I have since made

many attempts to trace it both by mentioning the matter

to c o l l e agues and also by writing to various London

b o o k s h o ps which deal in both new and secondhand legal

b o o ks but always without success. I write this letter in

the h o pe that s ome b o dy may have a copy of such book

and if so I would very much like to have the opportunity

of perusing it.

Few solicitors or barristers have shorthand and it

strikes me that, if there was at one time a well worked

out type of legal shorthand of the kind I have mentioned

a b o v e, it might well be worthwhile reviving it.

You rs etc..

Maurice J. Ke nny.

Solicitor.

Co r as Iompair Eireann,

St. Johns.

Islandbridge.

Dublin 8. "

The Editor.

14 June, 1983

Incorporated Law Society of Ireland Gazette,

Blackhall Place.

Dub l in 7.

De ar Editor.

I was more than a little surprised to read about the

n ews pap er c omme nt on, and the actual text of, what I

a s s ume is the editorial in your April, 1983 edition,

entitled "Fit the Crime", especially that part of it which

referred to the Dail debate which took place in relation

to what has c ome to be known as the Fairview Park case.

It is clear to me that wh o e v er wrote the editorial was

neither present in the Dail at the time, nor took the

trouble to actually read the Dail report on the

proceedings, but based his or her commentary on the

mo re lurid aspects of the media coverage given the

d e ba t e.

Th e editorial said "Our Judges have, since the

inception of the State, served its people well — far better

than its Legislators ha v e ." Would the writer like to

indicate what evidence exists to bear this out. I find it a

rather strange statement indeed, especially when one

bears in mind that all memb e rs of the judiciary have

been appointed by Legislators at s ome stage or another.

The standard of the Dail debate was described in your

Ga z e t te as being "deplorable": you said "It s e emed as if

De pu t i es were vying with each other in advocating

punitive sanctions, almost regretting that transportation

is no longer available as a punishment. It is not the duty

of politicians merely to e c ho each popular catch cry." I

e nc l o se herewith a copy of the Dail Report involved and

I challenge the writer of this emotive commentary to

point out to me where that statement is borne out in the

contributions of the

vast majority

of those who took part,

including

the

undersigned

your

blanket

c ond emna t i on admitted no exceptions.

In fact, the tone and content of the contribution made

by

most

of the speakers was extremely moderate, very

controlled, in no way emotive and for most of us was

entered into with very many misgivings. As you will

appreciate, it is most unusual to hear any politician

discussing or debating in the Dail a judgement given in

the Courts and this particular constraint, along with the

verv strict rules which apply in the Oireachtas — but

which clearly are not observed when it c omes to

editorials in the I.L.S. Gazette — relating to order and

propriety in debate, ensured that, for the most part,

moderation and responsibility were the order of the day.

Accordingly, I will be grateful if your writer would

now read the debate (which he clearly had not done

previously) and indicate to me and to your readership

whe t her he still asserts that "Deputies were vying with

each other in advocating punitive sanctions etc . .". One

is entitled to expect a higher standard from youreminent

publication than this level of abuse.

Sincerely yours.

Michael Keating. T . D . , Alderman

Dáil Eireann,

Baile A t ha Cliath 2.

Editorial Note: Deputy Michael Keating is correct when he

states that the official Dail Report does reveal that a number of

deputies

made contributions

to the motion which were

moderate and controlled. Unfortunately, circulation of the Dail

Reports is not such as to have any influence on public opinion in

general. The reports of the debates in the national

newspapers

were carefully considered before the article was written and the

Editorial Board is satisfied that the comments made in the

article were fair and were based on the evidence available to the

public generally. - Ed.

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