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GAZETTE

sepTemBER

1986

Correspondence

The Editor,

The Law Society Gazette,

Blackhall Place,

Dublin 7.

26 November, 1986

Re: Proposed Status of Children Bill

Dear Sir,

The draughtsmen of the proposed Bill, which is to

provide for illegitimate children being entitled to

succeed, on a putative parent's death, in equal shares

with his legitimate children does not appear to have

provided against the possibilities for fraud which are

inherent in the proposals as drafted. There would be

nothing to prevent an unscrupulous woman claiming

that her child is the illegitimate child of a deceased

person. If the claim is made after the death of the

deceased there would be no reubtting evidence to that

produced by the claimant and blood tests could not be

obtained. This would cause great distress and in many

cases hardship on the widow and her lawful family. This

whole question should receive adequate consideration

before the proposals go any further. There is also the

possibility that the proposals may conflict with Article

41 of the Constitution dealing with the family.

Yours faithfully,

Desmond Moran,

Solicitor,

Moran & Ryan,

35 & 36 Arran Quay,

Dublin 7.

The Editor,

The Gazette,

Law Society,

Blackhall Place,

Dublin 7.

Dear Madam,

Your editorial in the November issue of the

Gazette

on the Building Societies Bill is carping. That the

Building Societies need reorganising with legislative

change is beyond question. However, three of the five

paragraphs heap ire on the role of the Solicitors to

Building Societies. The Editorial is calculated to cause

as much damage as possible to such Solicitors by

offering them as sacrifice for others.

I was not aware that the Council of the Law Society

condemned Societies from employing their own

Solicitors. To my recollection, the Council passed a

motion endeavouring to sway the Building Societies

towards using purchasers' Solicitors for completion of

house mortgages. It did not condemn the use by

Societies of their own Solicitors, nor should it do so,

although that does not appear to be your leader writer's

view.

When the move failed to impress the Societies, the

Council lobbied the media and in the corridors of

political power to have their way and in doing so

endeavoured to divide the profession.

It is not the Council's function to instruct any client

as to which Solicitor they should entrust their business;

it has always been the profession's cry of independence

of choice that has served its integrity and the public it

represents best. Building Societies, as other clients,

should be entitled to have Solicitors of their own choice.

The Council in making a point seem to have entirely

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missed that most basic of rights — freedom of choice or

association.

Merely because the Council passes a motion on a

matter of perceived importance to the profession does

not mean that it is reflecting the views of the profession

as a whole. Was the Council not sadly out of step on the

advertising issue?

I suggest that it may also have done the profession a

great disservice by publicly attacking the legitimate use

by clients, in this case Building Societies, of their own

freely chosen Solicitors. If three Solicitors are

considered too many, although they perform different

roles on the part of the respective clients, is it really clear

that the Solicitor to drop out should be that of the

Building Society? Is there an argument that says a

purchaser's Solicitor is any better qualified than a

Building Society Solicitor, or vice-versa? I think not,

although it is common ground that Building Society

Solicitors tend to concentrate on conveyancing.

To suggest that a Building Society Solicitor might act

for a purchaser as well as a Society is not as illogical as

the Council might think, although it would not

necessarily be a result for which it would wish. I would

suggest that the Council either adopt a lower profile on

the issue of Building Society Solicitors, or take a poll of

the profession as to whether it is desirable to pre-empt

from any prospective client the free choice of Solicitor

before campaigning further.

Financial institutions have great resources and their

desire to provide services until now traditionally the

preserve of Solicitors may within the near future put the

entire profession under greater pressure than it presently

realises. One only has to look at the U.K., where the

Council seems to gaze all the time, to note that a

Solicitor and a Conveyancer are no longer coterminous.

Statistically,

I believe

Conveyancing

produces

approximately

50% of

Solicitors

fee income

nationwide. It has to be a possibility that Building

Societies and other financial institutions might press in

the future to provide conveyancing services traditionally

provided by the Solicitor's profession. Can an already

over capacitated profession really withstand the loss of

any more traditional work areas to others?

The Council might be better advised to publicly and

vigorously campaign, possibly with the Auctioneering

and Accountancy professions, to highlight the real and

unjustified expense of change of house, if one is again

to measure by looking across the Irish sea, and for the

abolition of stamp duty on the conveyances of dwelling-

houses and the reduction of exorbitant Land Registry

fees on even the most pedestrian of transactions and, of

course, the high level of VAT.

Yours faithfully,

John Hooper

Solicitor, Dun Laoghaire.

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