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The Gazette of the Incorporated Law Society of Ireland.

[Due.,

1908

could not be discussed, was as to whether the

Local Government Board had any authority at

all to create or make a schedule of fees. The

Judges more or

less

threw out

that they

did not think it fair; but as his bill was fur

nished before the new rule came into opera

tion or was promulgated, they could not raise

that question. As a result of the certificate of

taxation being quashed in a number of other

cases in which he was personally interested,

he had sent on the certificate to tax in the

ordinary way. He sincerely hoped that the

Local Government Board would press this

matter on, and that the vexed question would

be settled. If he got an opportunity, he would

certainly test it himself. They had the full

copy of the judgment, and they were going to

print it, because it was a very important docu

ment for the profession to have before them,

as

it would show them how matters stood.

There was another matter in connexion with

costs in which Rural District Councils were in

terested ; but as it was

sub judice,

they could

not deal with it. He thoroughly agreed with

Mr, Brady as to the question of tht; measure

ment of costs.

Under the Rules, save in

exceptional cases, the Judges had no power to

measure costs. He was afraid that in some

cases some members of the profession agreed

to the costs being' measured. He thought if

the profession kept together they would find

that under the Rules, except in very few cases,

the Judges had no power to measure costs. With

reference to the private meetings to which

Mr. Quaid referred, he did not see that that

would be workable.

If any grievances existed

—and of course they did exist from time to

time—if they were sent on to the Council,

they would be taken'up. A number of cases

were not brought before them, and of course

they were not to blame for that. Every solici

tor who had grievances should send them on,

and they would do everything they could to

uphold the honour and position of the pro

fession (applause).

MR. T. H. R. CRAIG said he had the

honour to be honorary secretary of the Associa

tion they had in connexion with the Recorder's

Court, and if his recollection served him aright,

the question of the extension of the jurisdic

tion of the Court of Conscience was before his

Society, and that they unanimously agreed that

the extension of the jurisdiction of the Court

of Conscience was not desirable.

MR. JAMES BRADY :

I was present at the

meeting, and I never heard anything of that

nature brought before

it, although

I was

treasurer.

MR. CRAIG said they came to that con

clusion not for their own interest, but because

it was really to the interest of the clients.

People imagined that if they went into the

Court of Conscience to recover small debts

the}' were in a much better position than if

they went to the Recorder's Court, but some

of them got a very rude awakening.

It was

principally from

the point of view of the

plaintiffs that they were

interested

in

the

matter.

In the Court of Conscience'no doubt

the decree must be executed by the Court

bailiff; but it was done not at the risk of the

sheriff, but at the risk of the plaintiff, and he

was actually in the same position as if he had

employed a special bailiff.

In addition the

President of that Court was not a lawyer, and

he had ample jurisdiction at present for dealing

with cases brought before him. Mr. Brady

was quite right that there was congestion in

the Recorder's Court, and he was afraid the

congestion would continue unless the Executive

would do what they ought to have done

long ago—not necessarily to amalgamate the

jurisdictions of county and city, but to make

an order that the Civil Bill business

for

Kilmainham should be heard at the same place

and at the same time as the Civil Bill business

for the city. He believed that would get rid

of any congestion in the Court. That would

enable twelve sittings to be held as at present

for the county, which included the very popu

lous districts of Rathmines, &c. There was

one other matter he thought the public should

understand—that was the position of the Civil

Bill Courts (Dublin) Bill. That Bill was in

troduced or put forward in the first instance

by the Recorder.

It was then submitted to

the Incorporated Law Society, and met with

their approval. It was also considered by their

Society in Green Street, and he believed they

were the persons really interested in the Bill.

The Bill was very carefully considered by the

Association, and received unanimous approval

as amended by the Council of the Incorporated

Law Society. They did not know at present

who blocked that Bill, or why it was blocked ;

but there was one sentence at the end of

page 13 of the Report which was very signi

ficant: "The Bar Council informed the Council

of this Society that they could not pass a

resolution in favour of the Bill as it at present

stands." He (Mr. Craig) did not say that the

Bar Council blocked this Bill; but except for

that the Bill might have been now law, and the