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Memorandum on Meeting with Representatives
of the Dublin Corporation, Dublin County
Council and Dunlaoghaire Corporation
26th April, 1973
Attendance : John Maher, John Doran, Dublin Corpor-
ation, John O'Neill, Dublin County Council, D.
O'Sullivan, Dublin County Council and George Mcln-
tyre, Dunlaoghaire Corporation.
Certificates as to Roads and Services
Arising from a complaint by a member on the sub-
ject of delays in the issue of certificates as to roads and
services a meeting was arranged with the above mem-
bers of the various bodies involved. These representa-
tives pointed out the administrative difficulties which
arose when their staff dropped all work to deal with
special queries. Generally speaking a standard pro-
cedure should be followed otherwise the whole system
would clog-up. They pointed out that new big ordin-
ance survey maps now showed house numbers and
when this new system had been completed it would
show areas in charge and this would take 7 to 10
days off the time for issuing certificates. However it is
likely to take two years to organise this system. In the
normal course forms go through 6 sections in the
Dublin Corporation before the certificates are issued.
In the case of new houses which have changed hands,
possibly only five sections would be concerned. It was
pointed out that roads were comparatively simple
and that services are more complicated. Planning per-
mission queries involve further delays.
It was suggested that members of the legal profession
should decide what is the maximum time required to
obtain a reply. If the Corporation know this, they can
then plan their staffing requirements. It was suggested
that delays could be avoided in the following ways :
(1) Solicitors should send out their queries to the
Corporation and the County Council at the earliest
possible date (the day when the contract is signed).
This would give the Corporation about four weeks to
reply to the solicitor. The Corporation felt that normal
queries could be dealt with in three to four weeks but
that this would vary depending on any special queries
raised. At the moment they felt that queries could not
be finalised within two weeks without getting special
staff. Mr. Doran of the Dublin Corporation said that
he could not answer for the planning department only
for queries on roads and services.
(2) A further 2 to 3 days time could be saved if
queries to the Dublin Corporation were addressed
direct to the Principal Officer, Engineering De-
partment, 28 Castle St., Dublin. In the case of the
Dublin County Council, queries should be addressed to
the Senior Administrative Officer, Engineering De-
partment, 11 Parnell Square, Dublin 1.
George Mclntyre of Dunlaoghaire Corporation is of
the opinion that his department would be unable to
plan properly for dealing with queries unless he was
informed of the minimum time within which solici-
tors expected the certificates to be issued.
John Maher then told the representatives that the
matter would be brought before the Court Offices and
Costs committee and a reply would be sent to John
Doran, Dublin Corporation together with copies to the
other representatives.
SOCIETY OF YOUNG SOLICITORS
The new Committee of the Society is now :
Chairman
: Maeve T. O'Donoghue
Secretary
: Michael Carrigan
Treasurer
: Derek Greenlee
General Committee
: Maurice Curran, Anne Neary,
Clare Cusack, Donough O'Connor, Felicity Foley,
Thomas Griffin, Brian Wallace, Brian Gallagher,
Norman Spendlove.
Notice re coming Seminar:
Venue
: Talbot Hotel, Wexford, during the week-end
19/21 October 1973.
Theme
: Property Law and Modern Conveyancing.
SOLICITORS' GOLFING SOCIETY
The Captain's (S. Victor Crawford) Prize will be held
at Hermitage Golf Club, Lucan, Dublin, on Friday,
28 September 1973. In addition to the Veteran's Cup
and the St. Patrick's Plate there will be special prize*
to commemorate the Society's Golden Jubilee.
Notices are being posted to members of the Golfing
Society and any Solicitors interested who have not
reeived a noticc may obtain an entry form from Henry
N. Robinson, 94 Merrion Square, Dublin 2, or William
O'Reilly at the Incorporated Law Society Offices.
NOTICE — Vacancies for Apprentices
Will any solicitor in any part of the Republic of
communicate urgently with-the Secretary of the Incor-
Ireland who has a vacancy for an apprentice, please
porated Law Society.
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