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FREE LEGAL AID CENTRES M A Y CLOSE

The law students, who now run eight free legal advice

centres on a voluntary basis throughout Dublin, warned

T.D.s and Senators in Leinster House yesterday that

they will be forced to close down at the end of this year,

unless the Government accepts its reponsibilities in this

field.

About 50 deputies and senators met a deputation

from F.L.A.C. (Free Legal Advice Centrds) and heard

an account of the rapidly-growing demand on the

voluntary F.L.A.C. services.

Miss Barbara Hussey, chairman of F.L.A.G. told the

Oireachtas members: "Unless F.L.A.G. receives a firm

commitent from the Government that it intends to

introduce a more comprehensive State free legal aid

system, we will be forced to withdraw our voluntary

service."

Miss Hussey and other F.L.A.C. Council members

went to Leinster House to lobby for the introduction

of a State system, and she said at a press conference

afterwards that their representations seemed to have

evoked "a very favourable reaction."

However, Miss Hussey added : "If we feel that the

State is going to do something, we are prepared to help

out. But if we feel that the State is not going to do

anything, then we will have to close down."

She said that, apart from the increasing public de-

mand which is more than the students' limited resources

can cope with, they had some fears that "if we con-

tinue this service we may even be postponing the intro-

duction of a free State-run system."

4,000 Clients

Since the first Free Legal Advice Centre was set up

in 1967, F.L.A.C. has been consulted by nearly 4,000

clients. The three largest categories of cases have been

interpersonal relations cases (mainly marital disputes),

landlord and tenant cases, and criminal cases.

The 80 students who run F.L.A.C. have the volun-

tary assistance of 60 solicitors and 40 barristers, and the

withdrawal of their service would be a major blow to

people in the lower income brackets who come into

contact, either voluntarily or involuntarily, with the

Courts system.

It was announced earlier this week—and the coin-

cidence has evoked some comment—that F.L.A.C. was

to get an allocation from the £200,000 extra which

was promised in the Budget for child-care services.

The F.L.A.C. deputation yesterday heard from the

Attorney-General, Mr. Declan Costello, that the amount

to be allocated to their organisation is £5,000. He was

unable, however, to elaborate on how the Minister for

Justice would require this money to be spent.

The Minister, Mr. Cooney, was attending a Senate

debate and was unable to meet the F.L.A.C. members,

but he is to contact them in the near future with

details.

However, a F.L.A.C. council member, Mr. Alan

Shatter, pointed out later : "We are trying to emphasise

that we are only an interim service, and no matter

how much money we get, we cannot cope with the

long term problem."

The £5,000, F.L.A.C. members felt, might be for a

duty solicitor to advise defendants in the Dublin

Children's Court, and to provide some badly-needed

secretarial services. But this, they added, would leave

many other juveniles—in Ballymun, Rathfarnham and

Ballyfermot area courts, and throughout the country—

still without legal assistance.

The existing limited system of State-provided free

legal aid—it is available only in criminal cases and then

only in exceptional circumstances—was described as

totally inadequate by F.L.A.C. members, but they said

that at least some help was available for people charged

with criminal offences.

No legal aid whatsoever was provided by the State

for civil actions. They commented that there seemed

recently to have been a relaxation in the attitude of the

courts to granting legal aid in criminal cases. It was

now granted much more readily than a couple of years

ago. But the Department of Justice did little to publi-

cise its availability, F.L.A.C. pointed out.

A Public Right

Among the other points made by Miss Hussey in the

briefing for Oireachtas members was that F.L.A.C.

should not have to provide what was, in effect, a charit-

able service. "Free legal aid should be a right which

people are entitled to, not something they should be

dependent on a voluntary organisation for," she said.

"We have no wish to perpetuate this charitable system."

She added : "We have always left the State to intro-

duce its own system of free legal aid and so we are not

interested in receiving money to finance our voluntary

work. We do not want to continue our service in-

definitely as an inadequate alternative to a compre-

henive State aid scheme."

If definite steps to initiate a statutory service are not

taken by the Department of Justice, F.L.A.C. will close

down their centres from next January 1. Miss Hussey

said, however : "We are prepared to cooperate fully

with the Minister for Justice in devising a free legal aid

system in criminal and civil cases if a firm commitment

is forthcoming from him."

The F.L.A.C. deputation circulated a questionnaire

to deputies and senators at the briefing to ascertain

their attitude to the question of introducing a State

financed system. The estimated figure to run such a

system is £200,000. Government Ministers who heard

the F.L.A.C. case yesterday included the Minister for

Foreign Affairs, Dr. FitzGerald, the Minister for Posts

and Telegraphs, Dr. Cruise O'Brien, and the Minister

for Education, Mr. Burke. The former Minister for

Justice, Mr. Des O'Malley, was also present and

F.L.A.C. are to press for a meeting with the Minister

for Justice, Mr. Cooney, on another occasion.

Miss Hussey said at the press conference later that

the Attorney General had indicated that there were

going to be some reforms in the law relating to child

offenders and also in legislation concerning marital

cases. He had not indicated any official attitude on the

question of a comprehensive free State legal aid scheme.

{The Irish Times,

June 1973)

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