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Irish Banks Standing Committee,

Bank of Ireland,

Dublin 2.

2nd December 1968.

Eric A. Plunkett, Esq.

Secretary,

The Incorporated Law Society of Ireland,

Solicitors Buildings,

Four Courts,

Dublin 7.

Bank Giro

Dear Sir,

I have received your letter dated 22nd instant

in the above matter. With regard to the points

raised therein I should like to explain that the

Bank Giro promotion is an effort by the banks to

establish a simple and efficient money

transfer

service for the benefit of the community. It is

appreciated that Bank Giro may create certain

difficulties

initially for some accounting proce

dures, but it is hoped that through consultation

with the banks at local level such problems as do

arise can be avoided or overcome.

The particular service which is causing concern

to some members of your Society is not new, but

has been in operation since 1961 under the title

of the Credit Transfer System. Incorporating it

under the new name of "Bank Giro" has not

changed the old procedure.

I might point out that if a debtor is to make

direct payments to the account of his creditor,

the former must know the name of the latters

bank, and this information is normally not avail

able unless the creditor provides it on his invoices

or requests for payment. I would suggest that the

absence of this information together with an indi

cation

that Giro payments are not acceptable

should effectively discourage the use of the system

if this is the wish of the creditor.

It is obvious to us, however, that there is a large

percentage of debtors and creditors who are

anxious to avail of this system and our action in

promoting it is designed to meet this desire and

provide for Irish bank customers the same service

and facilities which are already available in prac

tically every other European country today.

I hope that your members will understand that

in trying to keep abreast of modern requirements

and up to date methods my committee are most

anxious to ensure that inconvenience to any sec

tion of the community is avoided. I believe, how

ever, that any difficulties which your members

may envisage or experience can be satisfactorily

resolved if they are brought to the notice of the

individual banks concerned.

Yours faithfully,

R. F. BRENNAN

Secretary.

Incorporated Law Society of Ireland,

4th December 1968.

To: The Secretary,

Irish Banks Standing Committee,

Bank of Ireland,

College Green,

Dublin 2.

Bank Giro

Dear Sir,

I refer to correspondence on this matter and to

my subsequent telephone conversation with your

Mr. Black. Apart from the matters already raised

in my correspondence with the Bank of Ireland

there appears to be a further difficulty.

Even assuming that a solicitor instructs his bank

not to accept payments into his personal or office

or client bank accounts through the Giro pay

ments might still be made by a debtor direct into

the account of a client of the solicitor who had

instructed the solicitor to institute proceedings for

a debt against that debtor. If a payment were

made by the debtor direct into the customer's

account and if the customer were not aware of it

proceedings might be instituted by the solicitor

quite innocently for a non-existent debt or for a

sum in excess of the amount due to the client.

It would seem that this is a matter which de

serves your consideration.

Yours faithfully,

ERIC A. PLUNKETT.

Secretary.

Irish Banks Standing Committee,

Bank of Ireland,

Dublin 2.

6th December 1968.

To: Secretary,

Incorporated Law Society of Ireland,

Four Courts, Dublin 7.

Bank Giro

Dear Sir,

I have your letter of the 4th December bringing

to my attention a possibility which,

in your

opinion, deserves the consideration of my com

mittee.

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